Pokemon Adventure

All right, you guys, so I pretty much spammed the Cbox with excitement when I caught wind of the talk of rebooting the Pokemon roleplay, so I decided it would be less spammy of me more helpful to make a forum topic to discuss this. Reading the Cbox, it seems this idea has everyone's support~ (Except Dan, who never has opinions, and Twills, who never roleplays Pokemon, so they don't count.)

So let's talk Pokemon. I'll repost what I said on the Cbox:


While we could all go our separate ways and enjoy our little Pokemon journeys, I think Jack noted that it would be more fun to travel in a group rather than everyone striking out on their own. I think it would be awesome if we all somehow ended up being in one big group so we could do lots of fantastic things together~

And it doesn't even have to be traveling on a generic Pokemon journey anymore. We've been there, done that, time and time again, and we've lost interest in it, time after time. This time is different, because since our group is so tight, we have the control, we get to pull all the strings. We can drag in the Legendaries, we can find shinies, we can have the Pokemon apocalypse, we can make our own NPCs, our own villains, our own towns, our own Pokemon, our own challenges, our own unique logic-defying plots, our own silly shenanigans. We can turn the whole Pokemon world upside-down for the sake of roleplay and have it turn out to be spectacular. We don't have to follow any rules, there are no restrictions, anything and everything is game. I say all this because I really want to emphasize the freedom we have in this roleplay; we can do ANYTHING with this, so I want us all to put our heads together and make it good.

It might be easier to brainstorm creative twists after we get to see everyone's characters. That said, I'd like to see some filled-out character sheets. I know Quinn and I have our characters ready to go, but I'd like to hear about everyone else, too. I think it'd be good if we essentially followed the same profile format from Kenta's domain-fail site (because I'm pretty sure that's the one Quinn, Josh and I already have filled out for the characters we're using), so y'know, just kinda go for it. I posted it in a separate topic, so you can find the form there.

Before everyone fills it out, though, I think a few changes should be made:

• First of all, we should all be traveling in the same region, I hope, so that category is kind of unnecessary (though we should decide collectively which region to base ourselves in).
• I also don't really know about trainer class, because our site and Kyuu's had a few different ones? Well, just feel free to pick whatever, just use your best judgement. I think the only difference was Nurse, anyway, and I'd say that's still a legitimate trainer class, so that's all good. If you wanna be something else not on the site, go for it, nothing's stopping you.
• Finally, I don't think a roleplay sample is necessary, because I'm pretty sure we're all familiar with the way everyone here roleplays (if not, feel free to browse the Light RP section).

If that's all fine with everyone, I think it would be okay to remove at least region and roleplay sample from the profile template.

In the spirit of starting fresh, I made a new board for profiles (http://pjoreborn.smfforfree3.com/index.php/board,201.0.html), so go ahead and post your characters there. Also, I've got an empty board prepared for saving all of the stuff from the old roleplay so it's out of the way but we can still access it. Before I do any serious moving around and whatnot, though, I'd like some input from you guys. ('Cause I want to make sure I've got input from everyone and I'm not getting too ahead of myself here.)

After getting some of this preliminary stuff taken care of, we can discuss what boards we're going to need to make this work, and more of the technical / organizational stuff like that.

Thoughts? Questions? Comments?

I think filing roleplay threads by location would be best, so we could keep the location boards.

I'll do something in the way of a character profile. I guess it might end up being a self insert but whatever.

We might be able to ditch classes altogether, and be just Trainers, with interests in other professions. Like how Brock is a Trainer, but he's also interested in being a breeder and so on.

I think it'd be good, also, to generally keep to the whole pokemon world, without introducing new pokemon. We already have 700~ to choose from. But an overarching plot would be good, with escapades and misadventures in the meantime. Legendaries can come further down the road, once we've progressed a fair bit.

Prepare for MASS QUESTIONS.

In light of the whole we-can-do-whatever-we-want thing, how should the RP play out? And by this I mean the whole mood. We could keep it fairly canon (slightly silly, light-hearted), we could make it dark and edgy, or we could even make it so random/confusing/hilarious that it reads like a crack fic. (Nicola & Josh- remember Stella? :D)

I'm in favor of any of these options. The whole project sounds like a lot of fun~ <3

Also, Nicky: in the template, you kept the RP sample section. Didn't you say you wouldn't?

Also, also, story! What should we be doing? Are we making our own region? Where should the characters start out? Is there a plot? Should it be realistic, or can we be some kind of "chosen ones" because why not? Are we battling evil? Are some of the players evil? Ooh, or the gym leaders. Can they be secretly evil? What about starters? Can they be just anything? Or do they have to be actual starters? Just how much will we be twisting the canon? Can there be shenanigans? Can there be magic and genderbend guns? Can there be crossovers? Can there be Batman? OH LORDY WE COULD HAVE ZUBATMAN OR SOMETHING. THE HERO GOLDENROD DESERVES, BUT NOT THE ONE IT NEEDS RIGHT NOW.

IT WOULD BE BEAUTIFUL.






...Oh dear, I may have gone a little overboard, there.

Okay, so, I'm in favour of having Zubatman as a recurring character.

Starters could be anything, I guess. As long as you could justify it.

I'd rather the canon-style RP, to be honest.

We could start in Kanto, and move off through the regions, like in a world where Ash/Red didn't exist, and it's us instead.

To be honest, I'd rather not have magic guns to randomly do stuff xD
Crossovers, would be okay, as long as they actually make a bit of sense, no "SUDDENLY KARKAT FOR NO REASON".

In light of the whole we-can-do-whatever-we-want thing, how should the RP play out? And by this I mean the whole mood. We could keep it fairly canon (slightly silly, light-hearted), we could make it dark and edgy, or we could even make it so random/confusing/hilarious that it reads like a crack fic. (Nicola & Josh- remember Stella? :D)
I agree with Jack that we should keep it fairly canon. Slightly silly and light-hearted sounds like a good mood to me, and while we could still get all serious when major plot points appear, I'd imagine it wouldn't ever really breach the limits of "dark and edgy" or "crack fic".

Also, Nicky: in the template, you kept the RP sample section. Didn't you say you wouldn't?
I wanted to leave everything unchanged until I got some feedback, and then remove what I mentioned if people agreed. Sounds like you guys agree, though, so I'll go remove it in a bit~

Also, also, story! What should we be doing?
That's something I think we should come up with as a group. I think we need a reason to throw our characters together in the first place, and then something to keep them together. Maybe they could form their own guild or something?

Are we making our own region?
We could if people wanted to, but I'm gonna have to vote no on this one. We've already got the regions Pokemon gave us, I say we just use Kanto.

Where should the characters start out?
Somewhere in Kanto is my vote, though we could start anywhere, I suppose.

Is there a plot?
Not yet. We'll want to make one before starting, though.

Should it be realistic, or can we be some kind of "chosen ones" because why not?
Hm, I personally would prefer it be realistic, but again, it can go however.

Are we battling evil?
Sure, why not?

Are some of the players evil?
If they want to be, sure!

Ooh, or the gym leaders. Can they be secretly evil?
Ahh, conspiracy! I like it~ I'll keep that in mind as a potential plot idea.

What about starters? Can they be just anything? Or do they have to be actual starters?
They can be anything, though it would be nice to keep it within reason, like no legendaries and whatnot. You don't have to pick an actual starter, though. (But if you in particular are changing your starter, please tell me first so I can change mine, too~)

Just how much will we be twisting the canon?
As much as we want. It's hard to make an outright prediction right now, because it'll really just depend upon the plot we choose.

Can there be shenanigans?
Why, certainly.

Can there be magic and genderbend guns?
Ummmm... I'd prefer not... I mean, we've already got Pokemon, how much more magic do you need?

Can there be crossovers? Can there be Batman? OH LORDY WE COULD HAVE ZUBATMAN OR SOMETHING. THE HERO GOLDENROD DESERVES, BUT NOT THE ONE IT NEEDS RIGHT NOW.
Basically what Jack said, they're good as long as they make sense. Like Zubatman, he would fit into the Pokemon world just fine. I am also in favor of having Zubatman as a recurring character. (Though the Pokemon world does already have Gligarman - http://www.pocketmonsters.net/images/characters/1529.png)

Wow. That was just a brain dump and I wasn't expecting you to answer all of it. XD But thanks!

Oh, and the URL you gave for Gligarman doesn't work.

(http://www.pocketmonsters.net/images/characters/1529tinythumb.png)

No problem. And pfffft, whoops. XD

Try this page then: http://www.pocketmonsters.net/characters/Gligarman

So much approval.

Like I said in the cbox, I'm all for rebooting.
But are we keeping all classes like Trainers, Breeders, etc.? Do we need to redo rules or delete a bunch of stuff? >.<

I was thinking yeah, we're going to be redoing some rules here. Don't be editing any of the ones we've got, though, because I'm going to be adding new boards for those once we get this stuff settled. No deleting will be involved, I've set up a board where we can move all the old RP stuff so we can go back and reference our old stuff if we want. I just wanted some input before moving everything. :)

EDIT: As for Trainer classes, I think we're picking any of the trainer classes you can run into in the games, so we've got a huge variety. We don't need to plan out benefits and such for each and every one, just the ones people are playing.

Ooh ooh ooh I sense shenanigans and what not that I might be able to play around with and junk and do stuff and YAY! (I'm home bee-tee-dubs~ ^w^) As for actual input/question: Should there be like someone who's kind of... the environment? The ref? Someone who is a neutral party with their own motives to have shenanigans and what not?

...Can that person be me?

Hmm... Well, we haven't really decided what format the roleplay's really going to be in. I guess it would be pretty awesome to have one person who's just reffing all the time, but whether or not it can be you will... depend, I think. Like on whether or not we decide to use ref-style roleplay, whether or not the roleplay actually gets off the ground, and what types of shenanigans it is that you have up your sleeve. I'm not against you being forever-ref, I'm just... cautious about it. x'D

Input from everyone else? Should we use a system that requires a ref? Also, is anyone opposed to Twilli having a position of power over the plot? Discuss.

CAN YOU PLEASE STOP CALLING ME THAT???

Mhm, Nicola, it might be a bit more sensitive if you could start naming Jess by her actual name; but similarly, Jess, consider that Nicola has known you by the persona Twilli for years and has just made a mistake. We could get into a relatively unpleasant discussion about identity and personas here, but please, let's just let this slide, people~

Either way, I reckon the reffing style works. I mean, I see we're going for more roleplay, less emphasis on the heavy number crunching here, which is nice, but I'd like to keep some elements of the previous roleplay! I mean, reffing is nice because you can talk about other players and roleplay them in a way that isn't meta, which is always a fun deal. I think everybody can effectively be the ref, and Jess sweetie, you can do whatever you damn well please. You can be your own separate character that goes aways from everybody else but still reffs, if you'd like.

Josh, I get that 10:00 in the morning is an early hour for you, but you need to read more carefully. What I mean is above 'reffing,' it's instigating entire events in the roleplay that can cause character development, plot twists, shenagians or just plain comical stuff to empathize the story to make it more fun, more thick, more realistic, and give me something to do. I don't like roleplaying very much (btw you had six weeks to make a reply to the pm RP, I don't have anything in my inbox??), I like being on the side, thinking, helping and hurting as necessary (read: whatever would please me at the time), so I feel included! Is that too much to ask?

That is what we're all doing anyway.

Josh, I feel like you're not listening to me/reading what I say. :/

I read it over after reading your post. It's fine, you can do all that. I read it wrong at first, so you have my apologies, but it's still exactly the same answer. We're effectively going to be doing that for ourselves anyway, but I don't see why you can't also chip in with the writing even if you don't have a character involved. Is that an okay answer, or am I going to have to go back and read something again?

I don't know. I'm not sure what you understand. :/

I think we should keep the reffing style because we're all accustomed to it, but that's just my opinion. ^^

Well, Jake, I'm not. And secondly..

All of you are in the same group, as it seems to have been decided. If that is the case, you guys can't really ref for each other. There's way too much bias. (I'm not accusing anyone here! Put the gun down! All I'm saying is it just happens!) I'm just trying to help out, and as I've said before, it's not just reffing. It's like, overall having a part of the story, because I can put in small little events, and then there can be a secret karma tally here, and a few other numbers there. (Sorry if I'm a huge nerd. I like stats :P)

Like if I'm allowed to do this, I could put in small little plot-thickeners/plot-changers/shenanigans/cameos/etc. to make it have a fuller, more realistic feeling, at the same time making it light-hearted and fun when there isn't seriousness at hand. (i.e. Everyone's taking a small break, having a snack when a wild Skitty walks by a sleepy Quinn who gives it a berry and shoos it away without thinking she should probably try and catch it.)

And besides, when nature has a part, things are usually richer and more realistic, and therefore more fun and enjoyable, which means a longer lasting RP. (Usually. This site seems to be horrible at keeping an RP going.)

Jess, that is exactly what I'm saying. We're already going to be doing that for ourselves. I'm pretty sure we all understand what you're trying to say, and it's totally fine. Go for it.

I don't mind Jess reffing... but I would like to add some fine print saying that we can veto some of her plot decisions should she choose to abuse power.

Well, Josh, maybe you're just bad at wording things or I'm not interpreting things right. Whatever.

And Quinn, we all have different definitions of 'abuse'. We should decide what I can and can't do beforehand, since that's vague.

-shrugs-

I trust Jess not to abuse. Besides, with this plan in action, it's most likely going to end up less "abusing the system" and more "throwing stupid ideas out there that we simply won't follow".

Try not to intervene often is my only request. I'd like to write myself too.

I know... I'll let you guys write, and I'm not really going to be doing many major plot things, I mainly see me being in charge of side-quests, you guys finding the occasional rare Pokemon, and having recurring run-ins with a certain Shiny Chikorita, and the occasional larger story arc that I want you guys to take part in.

Yeah, that sounds gravy. I'm assuming Casey still wants veto power though.

Fair enough, but to veto it needs to be at least four people against it.

I'd like us to have the ability to, yes. It's kind of a fail-safe.

Also, should I just switch my account name to Casey, since the whole anonymity thing was spoiled months ago? Or should I keep it out of nostalgia?

i sti' say quinn...

Mmkay, just wondering.

I was re-reading the first post again, and the whole plot-thing made me think (shocking). If we're going to have antagonists, should we all make evil characters and have two RPs going side-by-side, and let them meet every now and then? Or, since there are about six players, should we just go with half good, half evil? I could kind of see Dan, Josh and Jack's worn, bitter characters as eventual Rockets or something.

I wouldn't say Roderick is bitter, just a bit uncaring at times. It was something I wanted to develop as the Rp went on. We haven't really had a chance to RP them yet uwu

Very true! Besides, Emi is only a really a bit of an arse. He isn't evil-spirited, so I doubt it he'd turn evil any time soon.

Besides, JUSTICE IS ABOUT AS UNBITTER AS YOU CAN GET. Imagine that, though. Somebody named Justice turning to the dark side. How ironically tragic.

EDIT: OH I HAVE MORE THOUGHTS.

So we're talking antagonists, right? Well, I'm writing a pokemon fan fiction, okay, and Emi is the main character. He's just about 18 at the time, though, so it's roughly little over two years ahead of this roleplay.

See, it's set in a much darker pokemon world where pokemon and people can be killed, but the morality system extends beyond fainting. As in, pokemon battles are still a thing, wherein the pokemon only faints, etc.

ANYWAY.

The main antagonists in that are, for now, unnamed. But they're a syndicate. They've got control of Sinnoh right now, and they're fighting to get to the other regions, moving down throughout the continent. They can rough up most of the criminal gangs- I mean, they kicked Team Plasma right in their behind. The population of Sinnoh is in a lot of despair, and, as you could probably guess, there are pockets of rebellious forces. But the syndicate are stronger and most opposition is swiftly crushed.

There are also a much newer threat emerging called the 'White Hand Society'. Remember the little girl in Lavender Town, asking about the white hand on your shoulder? I thought because there was suddenly a morality system, a group that can contact from beyond the grave would be pretty essential. I have a lot of creepy stuff I'd like to write for these organisation, but I don't mind it cropping up in this roleplay.

I don't know. I thought you guys may be interested in this.

JUSTICE HAS ABANDONED US/

Ahem.

I'm admittedly a little interested in this plot development, but then again... there are already over eight different evil organizations in the Pokemon universe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_crime_syndicates) that we might run into...

*interested in Josh's thingie*

Also, Quinn, can you list off the ones that you have? I can think of Rocket, Magma, Aqua, Galaxy and Plasma.

Also, there is also the Black Market that I touched on in Starlight's background. I plan to have that touched on more, depending on which way the RP goes.

Also, can we start anytime soon?

There's a link to Wikipedia in my last post. It lists Rocket, Aqua, Magma, Galactic, Plasma, assorted Biker gangs (yes, multiple), "Hunter J" (Diamond/Pearl anime), and Cipher (Pokemon Colosseum).

And I'd love to start. I've actually drafted my first post, but I need help from a certain Nicola.

Where should I post my first post? In Pallet Town? Or shall we have a separate board?

Probably a new board. Actually. I might just set up some stuff for it while everyone sleeps. Except Dan. Damn night owl.

That won't be necessary.

I GOT THIS. =u=

Edit: OH WAIT you already did. Quinn, what're you texting me for? You've already got a board, yo. =n=

Ahahaha. I did it and y'all are none the wiser. And then my internet cut out so I couldn't even post in my own board. :c

[If you're confused as to who I am, I'm Volcan/Scott, lol.]
My god, all this that I've finally found... haha

I know in the past I've pretty much disappeared from this site, but I have reasons. >.>

Anyway, I've found a LOT of time lately at my disposal [My life has pretty much hit a complete 180...] Anyway, this time at my disposal naturally eventually led me back to this site... I'd like to put simply that I've read pretty much everything here and am loving it a lot. I'm personally making my profile right now, hope you don't mind me butting back in on y'all...

I'd personally like to see this take off in some kind of way. I can tell that this was in the idea stage and never really panned out from there...

Unfortunately, that's what's been happening to everything else now sob sob sob.

'tis a sad sad world. ;-;